| The Wizzard Can Help Anyone. | Any Member having a Question, Can Ask The Wizzard! | ASK THE WIZZARD, questions about collecting BBGuns. Anyone can ask questions pretaining to BBGun collecting & anyone can help the collector out by giving them the infomation they are seeking (no questions about the value or prices of any item will be allowed)! ***Read at the bottom of this page to see what the WIZZARD says!*** Come And Test Your Knowledge of Airguns... You can learn Alot here... - When replacing the abutment washer in a model 25 daisy it says in repair manual to use staking tool to keep it in place. Is this mandatory ? I have replaced without restaking and gun shoots fine. Also if it was staked from factory same way as manual says why are there NO stake marks on barrell? This is not required, but it sure makes it easier, items that have been used other than the staking tool are: a long slot headed screw driver, a .22 cal. cleaning brush, a long wooden dowel. Using these tools, make sure it is tapped in place flat. I would think there are no staking marks on the barrel because it will either be tapped in place correctly & self seal or be incorrectly installed & not work properly.
- I would like to know if anybody has a #50 and if their shot tube is copper plated? All of the Daisy Model #50 Golden Eagle shot tubes are copper plated that I know of no shot tube for this gun being blued, however I have seen this shot tube copper plated all over or with just the shot tube cap copper plated, when this is the case the remainder of the tube is a non-finished metal. If it is copper tubing, not plated it is not original. *(picture & size to be posted later):
- What size shot can safely be used in the targeteers and does anyone reblue there guns if so what kind of blueing is used? I know of only 2 shots that can work safely in the Daisy Model 118 Targeteer Pistol, the .118 cal. bb & the #6 lead shot. As for the re-blueing of this & other guns you can use Perma Blue, Liquid Gun Blue by Brichwood/Casey or their paste if you can find it (the paste seams to work best). Black Oxide a cold blue alternitive does not work to well. The Perma Blue, Liquid Gun Blue by Brichwood/Casey will take a number of coats to get the desired blueing required, in any case the preperation of the metal is the most important step in re-blueing, (just as a car is preped for a new paint job), the ending results are only as good as the metal it is applied to & how good it was prepared. Some collectors and/or buyers like the guns to show their age and all the age marks where others prefer to clean their gun up to look better, each to their own, but keep in mind the value of your investment may be altered to a lesser (in mose cases) value, if the finish has been altered. Oil with 000 or 0000 steel wool, brillo pad, a pot scubber with lemon pledge, or a rotary tool with a steel brush fixture are some methods in removing the rust from metal parts (in all cases, make sure after using any of the above you clean the metal of any & all residue, it needs to be bone dry & oil & dirty free. Cleaning with hot soapy water & completely drying should work or use lighter fuel for cigarette lighters & wipe clean & dry. Questions about rebluing a gun comes up from time to time on our site over the past two years. Over that time I have seen pictures of guns posted that were refinished and blued by several members. I have not made any comments about their final results because beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and as long as they were happy with the results I did not want to demoralize them, but some were pretty bad. If you asked me what I think is bad bluing job, I would say its any gun with a uneven, streaky final finish. If it turns out looking BLUE and not Black I would say that its not the desired finish most gunsmiths are looking for. Some samples I have seen almost looked like blue anodized paint jobs. Anyway, when questions come up about the best way to re-blu a gun, I always recommend Casey's Birchwood Perma Blu Paste. I have found that liquid cold bluing is difficult to apply evenly and nearly impossible to avoid streaking . Also the liquid bluing looks too blue for my tastes. With proper preparation, using the Perma Blu Paste, you can eventually work the final finish into almost a jet black finish with no visible streaks, blotches or light and dark areas. It does take practice to achieve these results and using this method for the first time may or may not get the final results you want. If it fails the first time , go back and ask yourself if totally removed all of the old finish off the gun, did you go over the gun with the finest wet emery cloth you could get, did you remove all traces of oil from the gun using a detergent, did you rinse the gun in real hot running water and dry it off with paper towels ? Are your hands oily or sweat free? Always wear rubber gloves or grasp the gun using a paper towel and apply the bluing with your other hand. Apply the bluing with a paper towel ( small amounts until the paper looks used ). Refrain from using cloth towels of any kind as they are filled with lint. You can work the bluing onto the gun in small areas constantly moving back and forth over the area until it become dry, then move onto the next area repeating the above step. After gun is completely covered, start all over again applying a second coat constantly buffing it down with small pieces of dry paper towels. Buff lightly and do not press down hard. What you are trying to do is build up a heavy coat of bluing. After the second coat has been applied it should start to have that JET BLACK finish and if you preped the gun correctly it should have a nice deep gloss finish. From time to time you can pick the same gun up and apply another fresh coat. Do not apply oil on the finish until months later after you see a light petima rust appear, and apply the oil with the paper towel. If not convinced that this is the best system for cold bluing, at least give it a try... you might just like it. Cyron
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